And The Crowd Yells, “Let Him Die”

This comes to us care of Talking Points Memo and Think Progress‘s liveblog of the latest GOP presidential debate, the second to feature Rick Perry. This particular moment hits close to home for me. You might remember my attempts to pay for and get health insurance and where that got me.

In this moment, it is asked whether someone who is uninsured should be allowed to die or if the government should pick up where his lack of insurance and his bank account left off. The reaction from the Tea Party crowd is surprising, even for them. Below is the incident in question.

Ron Paul the doctor says a 30-year-old who has an accident and needs intensive health care should’ve planned ahead and is responsible for himself. When Blitzer asks if society should let that young man die, some in the crowd shout in approval. Tea Party audience members heard yelling: “Yeah!” “Let him die!”

I actually sort of like Ron Paul. I think his ideas are kind of crazy and his loathing of government a bit ironic but at least he has some ideas. This is more of a critique of the audience than Ron Paul though he sure didn’t challenge them.

And of course, Blitzer should have proposed the question again with someone like me who tried to get insurance, even paid for it for months and then was told he was uninsurable. What if I were the one in the hospital for six months? A twenty-something with all intentions of not getting a free ride.

Now, discuss!

UPDATE: Looks like Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson was right over a year ago when he said the Republican healthcare plan was, “Don’t get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly.” Well, that might be a bit of an exaggeration and the hypothetical situation isn’t specific enough but it sure doesn’t help the argument for the Tea Party reaction last night.

Ok, so now discuss.

10 thoughts on “And The Crowd Yells, “Let Him Die”

  1. This was pretty stunning. Right up there with the “TX executions” applause line from last week’s debate. 

    Also:

    – I was, however, rooting for Ron Paul as he urged us to reflect on our own behavior/history when trying to understand the motivations of our enemies in the middle east (a self-aware Republican? Wow).

    – one of the questioners was from Napa. There are Republicans in Napa??

  2. This was pretty stunning. Right up there with the “TX executions” applause line from last week’s debate. 

    Also:

    – I was, however, rooting for Ron Paul as he urged us to reflect on our own behavior/history when trying to understand the motivations of our enemies in the middle east (a self-aware Republican? Wow).

    – one of the questioners was from Napa. There are Republicans in Napa??

  3. @iTod Of all the people on that stage, Ron Paul and John Huntsman seem the most level-headed. Don’t get me wrong, there is some crazy in all of them, in all of us really, but those two seem the least insane. At least they are pointing out the issues within their own party, such you illustrated in your great comment, and Huntsman discussing evolution and global warming.

    Sadly, neither of these two have a snowflake’s chance in Hell.

  4. @iTod Of all the people on that stage, Ron Paul and John Huntsman seem the most level-headed. Don’t get me wrong, there is some crazy in all of them, in all of us really, but those two seem the least insane. At least they are pointing out the issues within their own party, such you illustrated in your great comment, and Huntsman discussing evolution and global warming.

    Sadly, neither of these two have a snowflake’s chance in Hell.

  5. American politics blows my mind sometimes. I really can’t imagine anyone, saying most of the things the GOB candidates are saying, and getting elected in Canada. The GOP is pretty damn scary.

  6. American politics blows my mind sometimes. I really can’t imagine anyone, saying most of the things the GOB candidates are saying, and getting elected in Canada. The GOP is pretty damn scary.

  7. @intrepidblue Thanks for the comment and yes you are 100% on point. I cannot imagine any of these people being electable in any first world country and yet, over 50% of Congress is a GOP member. They are against taxing corporations, providing essential healthcare, against regulation when it works in favor of the weak or against the powerful corporations.

    As with all politicians, they find themselves in the pockets of special interest groups, lobbyists and corporate donors. It’s unfathomable that a corporation in America has more power and rights than an individual. In Texas, 75% of Supreme Court cases (the highest court level in Texas) rule in favor of corporations.

    And it’s not just corporations vs people. East Texas is famously kind to patent squatters and a major reason why innovation is stifled for startups.

    Sure Texas has no income tax, but they make up for that in regressive taxes which hurt the elderly and poor the most while the rich get off easy. Oh it’s just such a mess.

  8. @intrepidblue Thanks for the comment and yes you are 100% on point. I cannot imagine any of these people being electable in any first world country and yet, over 50% of Congress is a GOP member. They are against taxing corporations, providing essential healthcare, against regulation when it works in favor of the weak or against the powerful corporations.

    As with all politicians, they find themselves in the pockets of special interest groups, lobbyists and corporate donors. It’s unfathomable that a corporation in America has more power and rights than an individual. In Texas, 75% of Supreme Court cases (the highest court level in Texas) rule in favor of corporations.

    And it’s not just corporations vs people. East Texas is famously kind to patent squatters and a major reason why innovation is stifled for startups.

    Sure Texas has no income tax, but they make up for that in regressive taxes which hurt the elderly and poor the most while the rich get off easy. Oh it’s just such a mess.

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